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		<title>By: On burn out. &#171; Media.Suarez</title>
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		<dc:creator>On burn out. &#171; Media.Suarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tweeted a blog post by Mark McGuiness &#8220;Is Burnout Inevitable in the Creative Industries?&#8221; sometime late last year.  I really don&#8217;t think burn out is something that is exclusive to a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tweeted a blog post by Mark McGuiness &#8220;Is Burnout Inevitable in the Creative Industries?&#8221; sometime late last year.  I really don&#8217;t think burn out is something that is exclusive to a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Britney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that burnout is inevitable.  If someone is to remain creative they need to devote part of their time reading, watching, or otherwise studying a wide variety of diverse tops.  I&#039;ve found that if you can be a &quot;jack of all trades&quot;, you will have more than enough creativity to last a lifetime.  Look at Leonardo DaVinci - he was interested in everything and if he was still alive today I&#039;d wager that he would still be into everything due to his passion for creating.

Those who feel that being in the Creative Industry is &quot;work&quot;, then they probably should find another career since they will definitely burn out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that burnout is inevitable.  If someone is to remain creative they need to devote part of their time reading, watching, or otherwise studying a wide variety of diverse tops.  I&#8217;ve found that if you can be a &#8220;jack of all trades&#8221;, you will have more than enough creativity to last a lifetime.  Look at Leonardo DaVinci &#8211; he was interested in everything and if he was still alive today I&#8217;d wager that he would still be into everything due to his passion for creating.</p>
<p>Those who feel that being in the Creative Industry is &#8220;work&#8221;, then they probably should find another career since they will definitely burn out.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Spotlight Ideas &#187; 25 Top Articles on Creativity in Marketing, Design &#38; Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 15:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: On burn out. &#171; Hannah Suarez</title>
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		<dc:creator>On burn out. &#171; Hannah Suarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tweeted a blog post by Mark McGuiness &#8220;Is Burnout Inevitable in the Creative Industries?&#8221; sometime late last year.  I really don&#8217;t think burn out is something that is exclusive to a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark McGuinness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark McGuinness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sharon - Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, having a meaningful purpose is a very important intrinsic motivation, very applicable to activists of all kinds. And it can be just as powerful a trap as the intrinsic motivations linked to creativity. 

@ Squa - Completely agree that the whole issue of evaluation can be very stressful. I&#039;ve written a few pieces about giving (and receiving) feedback on creative work, so you might like to have a look at the Feedback category for this site: http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/category/feedback/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sharon &#8211; Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, having a meaningful purpose is a very important intrinsic motivation, very applicable to activists of all kinds. And it can be just as powerful a trap as the intrinsic motivations linked to creativity. </p>
<p>@ Squa &#8211; Completely agree that the whole issue of evaluation can be very stressful. I&#8217;ve written a few pieces about giving (and receiving) feedback on creative work, so you might like to have a look at the Feedback category for this site: <a href="http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/category/feedback/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/category/feedback/</a></p>
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		<title>By: squa</title>
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		<dc:creator>squa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that a lot of the reason for these &#039;crunch&#039; nights, can be due to how responsibility is divided. Often the people given the responsibility of doing the work or coming up with the creative, aren&#039;t the same people who decide wether its good enough or the right idea to go in front of a client. Its rarely, in my experience,because of a creatives love for &#039;chaos&#039; or perfectionists who want to keep going while there is still time.(These kinds of last minute pushes are inspiring and are second nature to lots of creative people). It can be a case of second guessing over and over again until there is no more time, this kind of last minute pressure creates stress and is perhaps not helpful to the creative process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that a lot of the reason for these &#8216;crunch&#8217; nights, can be due to how responsibility is divided. Often the people given the responsibility of doing the work or coming up with the creative, aren&#8217;t the same people who decide wether its good enough or the right idea to go in front of a client. Its rarely, in my experience,because of a creatives love for &#8216;chaos&#8217; or perfectionists who want to keep going while there is still time.(These kinds of last minute pushes are inspiring and are second nature to lots of creative people). It can be a case of second guessing over and over again until there is no more time, this kind of last minute pressure creates stress and is perhaps not helpful to the creative process.</p>
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		<title>By: Surf’s Up: Top Creativity Links for December 3, 2009 &#171; Creative Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surf’s Up: Top Creativity Links for December 3, 2009 &#171; Creative Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark

Many thanks for this important post...I found it reflected my experience too, although with a different kind of creative endeavour, the environmental &amp; sustainability activism work I have been involved in since 1993. 

All of the same things in terms of personal responsibility apply to anyone involved in social change work, but in the case of social change activitsts [like writers, artists] it can also often be unpaid with no one making you do anything but yourself [too much intrinsic motivation?!]. I recall the 1996 conference of environment groups in Australia included a session on burnout, how to survive when a campaign you have invested blood, sweat and tears in fails etc. 

I spent five years working voluntarily 10am - 6pm with an environment NGO [minus University contact hours] and did indeed end up trashing my health. But it wasn&#039;t for fear of losing my job, since my work was voluntary. It was work that was [and still is] so important and interesting to me on a personal level that my health took a major blow. I did it again about five years later when I took on more extracurricular work of this nature while working full time [and then foolishly doing other community work like organising school reunions, one of which was attended by 700 people!].

There were benefits from all my efforts in terms of contacts and learning and travel opportunities, and the work I did also very much contributed to my now being in a paid work role that I love, that is aligned with my values and where I am earning good money.

I will continue to do the voluntary work I am committed to, but need to get better at maintaining the delicate balance of doing work that is personally important to me and sustaining mySELF! 24-7 digital connection has made it even harder to create boundaries and tell yourself &#039;I&#039;ll just do x...&#039;.

Cheers from Australia,
Sharon

PS: Your readers might be interested in these links:

http://www.gohomeontimeday.org.au
http://www.timeday.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark</p>
<p>Many thanks for this important post&#8230;I found it reflected my experience too, although with a different kind of creative endeavour, the environmental &amp; sustainability activism work I have been involved in since 1993. </p>
<p>All of the same things in terms of personal responsibility apply to anyone involved in social change work, but in the case of social change activitsts [like writers, artists] it can also often be unpaid with no one making you do anything but yourself [too much intrinsic motivation?!]. I recall the 1996 conference of environment groups in Australia included a session on burnout, how to survive when a campaign you have invested blood, sweat and tears in fails etc. </p>
<p>I spent five years working voluntarily 10am &#8211; 6pm with an environment NGO [minus University contact hours] and did indeed end up trashing my health. But it wasn&#8217;t for fear of losing my job, since my work was voluntary. It was work that was [and still is] so important and interesting to me on a personal level that my health took a major blow. I did it again about five years later when I took on more extracurricular work of this nature while working full time [and then foolishly doing other community work like organising school reunions, one of which was attended by 700 people!].</p>
<p>There were benefits from all my efforts in terms of contacts and learning and travel opportunities, and the work I did also very much contributed to my now being in a paid work role that I love, that is aligned with my values and where I am earning good money.</p>
<p>I will continue to do the voluntary work I am committed to, but need to get better at maintaining the delicate balance of doing work that is personally important to me and sustaining mySELF! 24-7 digital connection has made it even harder to create boundaries and tell yourself &#8216;I&#8217;ll just do x&#8230;&#8217;.</p>
<p>Cheers from Australia,<br />
Sharon</p>
<p>PS: Your readers might be interested in these links:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gohomeontimeday.org.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.gohomeontimeday.org.au</a><br />
<a href="http://www.timeday.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.timeday.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark McGuinness</title>
		<link>http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/2009/10/19/burnout-creative-industries/comment-page-1/#comment-254507</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark McGuinness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are right Neil - in some cases.  

A while back I wrote an e-book called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/2007/12/03/time-management-for-creative-people-free-e-book/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Time Management for Creative People&lt;/a&gt; and several people had a go at me in the comments for daring to suggest that a little more organisation and structure can actually be good for creativity. But since then the e-book has been downloaded over 80,000 times and led to me running lots of workshops on the subject - attended by creatives of all descriptions, who have been VERY hungry to learn. 

So my experience suggests that - although we love the image of the wild, unfettered creative soul - there&#039;s also a great demand for order and structure among creatives. But it has to be the &lt;em&gt;right kind&lt;/em&gt; of structure - not imposed from above, but growing out of the demands of the work itself.

I once &lt;a href=&quot;http://magmapoetry.com/archive/magma-34/articles/poetry-in-practice-creative-flow/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;interviewed some contemporary poets&lt;/a&gt; about their working habits. It was interesting to see a spectrum emerge, of order vs chaos. E.g. Susan Wicks described a very orderly working routine, while Paul Farley said he could never write when he wanted to, and had to be &#039;mugged&#039; by a poem when he was in the middle of doing something else.

I think most of us are somewhere on that spectrum between structure and improvisation. Some people might say that that&#039;s the nature of creativity itself. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are right Neil &#8211; in some cases.  </p>
<p>A while back I wrote an e-book called <a href="http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/2007/12/03/time-management-for-creative-people-free-e-book/" rel="nofollow">Time Management for Creative People</a> and several people had a go at me in the comments for daring to suggest that a little more organisation and structure can actually be good for creativity. But since then the e-book has been downloaded over 80,000 times and led to me running lots of workshops on the subject &#8211; attended by creatives of all descriptions, who have been VERY hungry to learn. </p>
<p>So my experience suggests that &#8211; although we love the image of the wild, unfettered creative soul &#8211; there&#8217;s also a great demand for order and structure among creatives. But it has to be the <em>right kind</em> of structure &#8211; not imposed from above, but growing out of the demands of the work itself.</p>
<p>I once <a href="http://magmapoetry.com/archive/magma-34/articles/poetry-in-practice-creative-flow/" rel="nofollow">interviewed some contemporary poets</a> about their working habits. It was interesting to see a spectrum emerge, of order vs chaos. E.g. Susan Wicks described a very orderly working routine, while Paul Farley said he could never write when he wanted to, and had to be &#8216;mugged&#8217; by a poem when he was in the middle of doing something else.</p>
<p>I think most of us are somewhere on that spectrum between structure and improvisation. Some people might say that that&#8217;s the nature of creativity itself. <img src='http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: neil christie</title>
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		<dc:creator>neil christie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post and follow-up comments. I work in the advertising business and many of the issues commented on above apply to our sector just as much as the gaming industry. However much time we have to do a job, and however well we try to plan the resource, we always have that &#039;crunch&#039; as big deadlines approach and the team works late nights and weekends to get it done.
No question that economic pressure, client demands and our own mismanagement of time and resource are the key factors. But I also sometimes wonder whether it&#039;s in the nature of creative people not to plan their time and prioritise their tasks. There are people who methodically assign time to jobs to ensure that work is completed within deadline (the kind of people who, to Mary K&#039;s point above, planned their revision schedule for the school term so they didn&#039;t need to pull all-nighters when the exams arrived) but those people tend to become managers and administrators, not creatives. Maybe the psychological make-up of the folks who can think laterally and make crazy, intuitive creative leaps is just fundamentally at odds with the imposition of structure and process. Some of our most brilliant creatives are the ones who are worst at managing deadlines. Perhaps, whatever systems are put in place, there will always be a tension between the managers who try to schedule work and the creatives who resist process and reject structure. 

I&#039;m no psychologist so this theory could be rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post and follow-up comments. I work in the advertising business and many of the issues commented on above apply to our sector just as much as the gaming industry. However much time we have to do a job, and however well we try to plan the resource, we always have that &#8216;crunch&#8217; as big deadlines approach and the team works late nights and weekends to get it done.<br />
No question that economic pressure, client demands and our own mismanagement of time and resource are the key factors. But I also sometimes wonder whether it&#8217;s in the nature of creative people not to plan their time and prioritise their tasks. There are people who methodically assign time to jobs to ensure that work is completed within deadline (the kind of people who, to Mary K&#8217;s point above, planned their revision schedule for the school term so they didn&#8217;t need to pull all-nighters when the exams arrived) but those people tend to become managers and administrators, not creatives. Maybe the psychological make-up of the folks who can think laterally and make crazy, intuitive creative leaps is just fundamentally at odds with the imposition of structure and process. Some of our most brilliant creatives are the ones who are worst at managing deadlines. Perhaps, whatever systems are put in place, there will always be a tension between the managers who try to schedule work and the creatives who resist process and reject structure. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m no psychologist so this theory could be rubbish.</p>
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